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Failure pulling music from Spotify over Covid misinformation and poor payouts

Failure

Priscilla C. Scott

Los Angeles, CA rock band Failure have announce plans to remove their music from streaming behemoth Spotify.

While the group has long despised Spotify's lowly artist payout rates, the service's "recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform" has pushed Failure over the proverbial edge.

A statement from the band reads as follows:

Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We've all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It's been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an “entire generation of music listeners?”

That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify's recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.
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Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify's COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify's insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band's supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don't want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

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anonymous 197 days ago

Keyboard tough guys. Total liberals. Schilling in the name of...


anonymous 197 days ago

Perfect band name for them


anonymous 197 days ago

Keyboard tough guys and Total liberals should be on this


anonymous 197 days ago

respect


anonymous 197 days ago

Dino here guys...going to be moving our material over to Onlyfans...out next album A$$bla$ters will off the hook! Also we we invented using a distortion pedal with double timing way b4 those Swedes in Meshuggah even tried to get into the game.


anonymous 197 days ago

"Spotify's insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band's supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers" ^^^^^^ Lmfao what does that even mean? This press release is a joke. Again, you're band peaked in 1997 with Fantastic Planet that you wrote and recorded as full blown heroin addicts blowing 500k slash records gave you on drugs. You had to record it at a house you rented from Lita Ford on whatever gear you could get. The result oddly a great record and then broke up your band mid tour to support because your heroin addictions crippled you. Your comeback tours were not even a shadow of what you once were and your records surely making Chris Barnes spiritually, mentally, physically and emotionally ill. A failure you are, Ken go back to scoring films for Hollywood you ass clown. Greg, go reform Autolux and leaves this shit to die.


anonymous 197 days ago

Dino, it's Evan Biohazard. Answer my calls and stop acting like jackass on forums and trying to bang my ex wife. I'm in Mexico living it up like John Mcafee but we need to get our adult enterprise going already.


anonymous 197 days ago

and absolutely zero subscribers noticed. flip those arby's visors back around boys


anonymous 197 days ago

Oh man. Crap. Their 18 monthly streams that come from their own members showing friends their crap music are gonna to really mess the algorithm up for potential listeners. Crap man. Crap I say! Be gone.


anonymous 197 days ago

Such a cringy trend. Sad all these artists are becoming terrorists because some meat head wants to talk about fringe topics.


anonymous 197 days ago

Yup that'll show everyone! Get bent pussies.


anonymous 197 days ago

Everyone on January 24th: "Lol Neil Young is truly an OLD MAN now lol OKAY BOOMER go ahead and pull your music BRO" The same people on January 27th: "I stand resolute with Neil Young against Spotify and the corporate tyranny that continues to hold a thumb over musicians and propagate misinformation."


anonymous 197 days ago

Easy decision. Sound quality sucks and isn't worth paying for. Never was. Should have bailed way before this because the lack of pay has been a thing for a long time. But these people think this is some bold stance. Who f*cking cares? Joe Rogan is just your dipshit alcoholic neighbor but with a larger audience. Nothing he says affects anything and if you get him to leave Spotify all you'll do is give him more of a following anyway lmao. This means nothing. Absolutely f*cking nothing is happening in this country. No politics ever, just liberal (conservatives are liberals too) bitching over consumption preferences. End this shit.


anonymous 197 days ago

So brave


anonymous 197 days ago

Scott Vogel here. Terror will never bail on Spotify, because without Terror, there is no Spotify. Or VFW halls. You're welcome. Now I have to go take my daily swim in gold coins, Scrooge McDuck style.


anonymous 197 days ago

This is just sad. Old men shooting at clouds about the industry changing, and then putting a little political spin on it.


anonymous 197 days ago

Don't worry, they'll post their breakup statement next after they realize what they did isn't "sticking it to the man" or "the anti-vaxxers".


anonymous 197 days ago

Ken Andrews went off the deep end since he released his solo "Orange man bad" EP


anonymous 197 days ago

Oh I forgot to mention, Terror has an agreement nationally for our own craft beer on tap at every VFW hall bar in the states called 'Spit My Rage IPA'. Ezec spits in each batch 50 times for maximum taste.


anonymous 197 days ago

I haev respect.


anonymous 197 days ago

"If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple..." YES because Apple has such a great moral compass as a company. lol. I wonder who gets paid less, your shitty band via royalties or the slave laborers at Apple.


anonymous 197 days ago

I remember when bands espoused free thought and didn't shill for government propaganda…"COVID misinformation" lmao stay brain dead. I'll be thinking of you guys when your girls are begging for my unvaxxed seed


anonymous 197 days ago

Joe rogan really shaking up the industry by talking to his friends.


anonymous 197 days ago

Never heard of these losers, and since they are estrogen filled, totalitarian pushing sheep, never will. Bye baby, go get on your knees and beg for them boosters.


_d0thack_ 197 days ago

Good for them. f*ck Spotify. Buy a CD or record.


anonymous 197 days ago

Came here for the triggered MAGAts. Did not disappoint.


anonymous 197 days ago

Came here for the triggered MAGAts. Did not disappoint. ___ If they had it their way we'd all be listening to Ted Nugent butchering the National Anthem in some dilapidated KoC hall in the Midwest, but as along as there are American flags everywhere to pacify their infantile jingoistic brains everything is cool.


anonymous 197 days ago

When a stupid band makes an intelligent point it still looks and reads stupid. Should of been someone who people actually give a shit about, like HEWHOCORRUPTS.


anonymous 197 days ago

They haven't been paid garbage for years by Spotify but lets stand with Noel Young and Joan Mitchell to get a slice of cheap press while it's hot. Who's next in the Lambgoat Spotify Pull Poll? I have Butch Walker.


anonymous 197 days ago

What's up this is Scott Vogel's internet lackey and unofficial accountant. Terror makes enough money off Spotify streams alone to afford Scott a nice apartment in a Buffalo since he's living there again.


anonymous 197 days ago

Finally! Now I can subscribe to Spotify.


anonymous 197 days ago

It's the quit your band guy here. See that rate 0.0004?? Don't listen to me, listen to Failure, Jack! Wrap it up.


anonymous 197 days ago

Failure to use your brain. Fitting. If you haven't figured out Covid is a scam after two years you're aa special kind of full retard.


anonymous 197 days ago

Cave In is next because they tried ripping off this band with Jupiter and we'll it was also a Failure


anonymous 197 days ago

Talk about doing it for the love of the game.


rick_tocchet 197 days ago

Misinformation = what the paid for, corrupt, elite owned and establishment supporting main stream media doesnt tell you.


anonymous 197 days ago

No one will care. Can they just end their band while they are at it?


rick_tocchet 197 days ago

I wonder what First Blood has to say about this?


anonymous 197 days ago

Vogel's manager here, I sent a letter to Lambgoat mod's we're going to have to talk about royalties each time Scott is mentioned in comments. He is generating you guys more revenue than any of your paid ads.


anonymous 197 days ago

People still give a f*ck about covid? Live your life, leave that shit behind.


anonymous 197 days ago

Singer looks like Vince Vaughn after one too many cuck sessions with the ol' neighborhood bull.


anonymous 197 days ago

They had to cancel a tour because of covid months before the covid pandemic started?!? LOLZZZZ


anonymous 197 days ago

Who?? Never heard of these f*cking losers.


anonymous 197 days ago

Literally who


anonymous 197 days ago

The current trend of celebrities and artists using their weight to try and censor, or even outright silence, dissenting opinions is far more dangerous than any virus. Especially one with a 98+ survival rate.


anonymous 197 days ago

Every musician should leave Spotify.


anonymous 197 days ago

Artists are making a business decision to sever ties with Spotify, whether it be for not wanting to associate themselves with Rogan's show, or because it offers rip-off royalties, or whatever. Spotify lost a lot of market value as a result but maybe Rogan fans will help turn that around. Either way, WELCOME TO THE FREE MARKET.


anonymous 197 days ago

Spotify sucks bc of the shitty pay. Let that be the only excuse for leaving them. Kinda lame by this band


anonymous 197 days ago

Just subscribed to Spotify


anonymous 197 days ago

this is peepee doodoo poonannery at its worst. please feel so inclined as to gobble my unvaxxed gooch.


anonymous 197 days ago

who are these guys? they look old af


anonymous 197 days ago

Ken "Low T Beta Soy Cucki-Boi" Andrews


anonymous 197 days ago

Every musician should leave Spotify. facts


anonymous 197 days ago

good on them


anonymous 197 days ago

Rage on Behalf of the Machine. f*ck you, Do What They Tell You. You're a racist if you oppose transnational Megacorporations. Us communists love megacorps. The unvaccinated are a danger to me because my vaccine works even though it doesn't work. Don't bully my favorite billionaire, nazi!


anonymous 197 days ago

Let's be honest... that second Autolux record sucked.


anonymous 197 days ago

Even if Spotify paid well these guys wouldn't make any money off it cause they suck and no one listens to it


anonymous 197 days ago

Im sure Spotify executives are absolutely losing sleep tonight because "failure" is leaving their site


NorthFromHere 197 days ago

As I wrote when when I unfollowed them: the royalty issue is a reasonable issue and Spotify pays bigger artists than smaller ones per song so I'd respect them leaving until the Rogan thing blew up. But since they are just leaving because of the latest culture war charade they lost a fan. They are so desperate without Trump to find a new cultural Satan that hapless Joe Rogan is their stand in now.


anonymous 197 days ago

say what you want about failure, but they have more monthly listeners on spotify than nails so


anonymous 197 days ago

imagine leaving vogel so you can play a tier below VFW and pool halls. that's what nails has done


anonymous 197 days ago

hey Failure, your payouts would be alright if anyone listened to your shit


anonymous 197 days ago

"Every musician should leave Spotify. facts" why? that would be dumb, it's literally free money. you aren't tricking people into buying CDs or records by not being there. in fact, quite the opposite, if you aren't on spotify most music consumers don't know you exist. this is "dreamer/boomer" logic


anonymous 197 days ago

Wake me up when emmure jumps ship.


anonymous 197 days ago

Came here for the triggered MAGAts. Did not disappoint. ___ If they had it their way we'd all be listening to Ted Nugent butchering the National Anthem in some dilapidated KoC hall in the Midwest, but as along as there are American flags everywhere to pacify their infantile jingoistic brains everything is cool. ^ 16 year old who's just discovered Rage Against the Machine


anonymous 197 days ago

I'm missing the part where Rogan spread "misinformation". How was he misinforming again?


anonymous 197 days ago

Failure likes injecting things


anonymous 197 days ago

Old washed up woke herbs playing backing tracks


anonymous 197 days ago

God DAMMIT


anonymous 196 days ago

Hey guys, I'm the lead signer of failure. We suck so much that I don't even know who I am but I know I'm the lead singer. I want to take moment to state that we just did this for money. That's all. We found a convenient excuse to seem like holier than thou but when you're as obscure as we are, you actually have to pay spotify for them to play your music. Anywho, we suck and have a nice day!


anonymous 196 days ago

Hey guys, I'm the lead signer of failure. We suck so much that I don't even know who I am but I know I'm the lead singer. I want to take moment to state that we just did this for money. That's all. We found a convenient excuse to seem like holier than thou but when you're as obscure as we are, you actually have to pay spotify for them to play your music. Anywho, we suck and have a nice day! ^^^ This.


anonymous 196 days ago

The header photo mimics the field of vision you have after getting jabbed


anonymous 196 days ago

"Oh no" Three people who even this nobody band


anonymous 196 days ago

Middle-aged hipsters who still don't have careers or goals, and like to pretend like they're bastions of intelligence because they read/saw something online…are stoaked.


anonymous 196 days ago

P.S. The absolute irony of people like Neil and the others clowns doing this… They're blabbing about their so called almighty 'morality', but turn around and willingly support, promote and prop up companies like Amazon and Apple. You know, companies with lengthy histories of slave like labor, poor wages, employee abuse, etc. People have gone so far off the deep end. It's no longer amusing, but genuinely disturbing. The level of incompetence and refusal to acknowledge uncomfortable truths, yet alone things that don't support their personal bias…is world ending levels of stupidity. China and Russia should just nuke us from orbit. Because it doesn't appear we're ever coming back down to reality.


anonymous 196 days ago

king shit


anonymous 196 days ago

Neil Young doesn't believe in GMOS - TRUST THE SCIENCE NEIL. He also thinks gay people will give him aids from potatoes and that the patriot act was good


anonymous 196 days ago

perfect band name. never heard of them, never will.


anonymous 196 days ago

"We want knowledge from the source the information came from " Joe Rogan literally brings the source on in human form, they explain stuff than everyone doesn't think its true haha i love watching this. Misinformation is humans thinking we actually matter. People think misinformation than go home and read the bible makes NO SENSE hahaha


anonymous 196 days ago

USE TIDAL they actually pay bands and you can see where your money goes.


anonymous 196 days ago

"perfect band name. never heard of them, never will." You just commented on a press release about Failure. How can you never hear of them?


anonymous 196 days ago

AHHHAHAHAHAH blatant attempt to raise their own profile by dogpiling on Rogan


anonymous 196 days ago

anonymous 18 hours ago USE TIDAL they actually pay bands and you can see where your money goes. No, thanks.


anonymous 194 days ago

they're from los angeles so this is about par for the course





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