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Senses Fail, We Came As Romans, Counterparts, SeeYouSpaceCowboy tour

Senses Fail and WCAR tour

Senses Fail and We Came As Romans will team up with Counterparts and SeeYouSpaceCowboy next spring for the "Hell Is In Bloom Tour." Dates are as follows:

3/24 Las Vegas, NV @ House of Blues
3/25 Anaheim, CA @ House of Blues
3/26 Tempe, AZ @ Marquee Theatre
3/28 Austin, TX @ Emo's
3/29 Dallas, TX @ Amplified Live
3/30 Houston, TX @ Warehouse Live
4/1 Atlanta, GA @ The Masquerade
4/2 Lake Buena Vista, FL @ House of Blues
4/4 Carrboro, NC @ Cat's Cradle
4/5 Baltimore, MD @ Ram's Head Live
4/6 New York, NY @ Webster Hall
4/7 Boston, MA @ Big Night Live
4/8 Philadelphia, PA @ Franklin Music Hall
4/9 Cleveland, OH @ Agora Theatre
4/11 Pontiac, MI @ The Crofoot
4/12 Chicago, IL @ Concord Music Hall
4/13 Lawrence, KS @ Granada Theatre
4/15 Denver, CO @ Summit Music Hall
4/16 Salt Lake City, UT @ The Depot
4/18 Seattle, WA @ The Showbox
4/19 Portland, OR @ Roseland Theater
4/21 Sacramento, CA @ Ace of Spades
4/22 Los Angeles, CA @ Novo


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anonymous 11/17/2021 10:59:26 AM

Pass! Senses Fail are wokesters.

anonymous 11/17/2021 11:02:06 AM

4/17 Billings would fit in nicely

evil_hero 11/17/2021 11:04:51 AM

i'll be goddammned if ain't wearing my von dutch hat to see senses fail

evil_hero 11/17/2021 11:05:12 AM

suspicious. no 4/20 date? these guys must be white supremacists

anonymous 11/17/2021 11:10:05 AM

Flying in from Budapest for the Carrboro show, can't wait

anonymous 11/17/2021 11:17:27 AM

Why isn't Nails fronted by Todd Jones on this? ___ Todd Jones here. The new lineup of NAILS actually got offered to headline this tour, but we turned it down. Back in the early days of NAILS, I tried to have a quick pow wow/breaking of bread with Senses Fail mainman Bobby after one of their shows in Ventura. He said they had to hop in the van right away because they had a long drive ahead of them for the next night's show. From that exact moment I knew that SF could never hang with alphas. Mentally latered those posers for eternity. They will never be one of us.

anonymous 11/17/2021 11:46:47 AM

doesn't anyone listen to Senses Fail? like have you EVER met a fan of Sense Fail?

anonymous 11/17/2021 11:53:49 AM

These are some BOLD venue choices.

anonymous 11/17/2021 11:54:35 AM

I fail to sense any urgency to by a ticket.

anonymous 11/17/2021 12:01:14 PM

Webster Hall yeah sure ok LOL. So Senses Fail is bigger than Turnstile since SF is playing 1500 capacity Webster Hall & Turnstile is playing 1200 capacity Brooklyn Steel? Doubt it.

anonymous 11/17/2021 12:08:21 PM

Will leave after Counterparts. Phight me in Philly.

anonymous 11/17/2021 12:17:33 PM

Senses fails music has more purpose and integrity than your five finger death punch butt rock ass bullshit, and that's f*cked cause senses fails music isn't the best by anymeans.

anonymous 11/17/2021 12:22:21 PM

Counterparts suck lol, you are all posers!

anonymous 11/17/2021 1:30:46 PM

I think everyone in these comments agrees that FFDP sucks.

anonymous 11/17/2021 1:33:01 PM

You'd have to pay me to go to see this gigantic trainwreck.

anonymous 11/17/2021 1:33:33 PM

anonymous 33 seconds ago I think everyone in these comments agrees that FFDP sucks. this tour would be 100000000x better if FFDP were on it, also, emmure, and FFDP sucks, and keep this garbage out of billings

anonymous 11/17/2021 1:51:58 PM

show up late, leave early tour 2022

anonymous 11/17/2021 2:01:09 PM

Webster Hall yeah sure ok LOL. So Senses Fail is bigger than Turnstile since SF is playing 1500 capacity Webster Hall & Turnstile is playing 1200 capacity Brooklyn Steel? Doubt it. Yeah, there's no chance this tour does better than the Turnstile tour

anonymous 11/17/2021 2:45:55 PM

No Blake hardman no cares, counterparts should just hang it up or themselves, either works

anonymous 11/17/2021 2:52:46 PM

pro-lockdown/gender pronoun-core

anonymous 11/17/2021 4:28:11 PM

At least Blake won't try to con the fans out of money on this tour.

anonymous 11/17/2021 4:28:40 PM

DEFONCED!

anonymous 11/17/2021 4:33:37 PM

Yeah, there's no chance this tour does better than the Turnstile tour >>> Turnstile has a lousy booking agent cuz he's booked them in NYC two Mondays in a row. I mean he had ALL of 2020 to book a Friday or Saturday & he books Mondays SMH. I don't care how big you are Monday su cks a ss unless you're the Rolling Stones or someone else on that stadium level.

anonymous 11/17/2021 5:22:56 PM

Some leftist on here is very jealous of Turnstile.

anonymous 11/17/2021 6:07:51 PM

"Turnstile has a lousy booking agent cuz he's booked them in NYC two Mondays in a row. I mean he had ALL of 2020 to book a Friday or Saturday & he books Mondays SMH. I don't care how big you are Monday su cks a ss unless you're the Rolling Stones or someone else on that stadium level." A band like Turnstile can play a real city, like NYC or LA, on a Monday, and sell it out, which they in fact will. You hit smaller, crappier towns (ya know, red states) on weekends because you have to draw kids from like 4 different states because, well, flyover country.

anonymous 11/17/2021 6:17:53 PM

Are these guys backed by the they/them community?

anonymous 11/17/2021 6:34:49 PM

Love me some senses fail, havent seen them live since life is not a waiting room came out

anonymous 11/17/2021 7:04:53 PM

Buddy personally chose seeyouspacecowboy to have some tour love

carveyournamein 11/17/2021 7:53:39 PM

F U C K I N G. W H O ????

anonymous 11/17/2021 7:56:51 PM

A band like Turnstile can play a real city, like NYC or LA, on a Monday, and sell it out, which they in fact will. You hit smaller, crappier towns (ya know, red states) on weekends because you have to draw kids from like 4 different states because, well, flyover country.>> First off, Monday is the worst day of the week to have a show because it is the beginning of the work & school week for most people. May 23 (Turnstile's NYC date) is college finals & spring graduation time. Second, if Turnstile sells out it's only because they have Citizen & Ceremony who will draw at least 400 paid people on their own supporting them & figure Ekulu will draw at least 40. Therefore take away that 440 & Turnstile dreams 760 on their own nowhere close to a sellout of 1200 cap Brooklyn Steel or even 1000 cap Irving Plaza. 760 isn't even a sell out of 800 cap Granercy Theater.

anonymous 11/17/2021 8:12:15 PM

^^^ Sold out shows are more often than not fabricated or sold out of ADVANCE TICKETS. "Sold Out" is a ploy to drive up walkups. How many times do you see those two words then "walkups available." 'Say I formed a band & we played 4 local shows before booking a headlining show @ Saint Vitus Bar on a Tuesday night. We charge $15 advance $20 day of show. SVB is 200 cap so say we sell 40 advance tickets then buy 120 tickets through 40 friends we reimburse. If we draw just 20 friends & 40 walkups we can boast that we played a sold out show on a Tuesday night even if only 100 paid people or half capacity showed up.

anonymous 11/17/2021 8:15:23 PM

^^^...cuz technically we sold 160 advance tickets & would have proof of it. I wouldn't be surprised if Bowery Presents themselves gives away free tickets to inflate attendance.

anonymous 11/17/2021 9:11:24 PM

Senses We Came Fail As Romans

anonymous 11/18/2021 12:01:47 AM

If these guys support Trump they better get the f*ck out of my scene! - Jesse Barnett

anonymous 11/18/2021 12:47:04 AM

Awful lot of clueless idiots who don't actually know anything about NYC venues in these comments. For one thing, Brooklyn Steel is in fact larger than Webster Hall: Brooklyn Steel is 1800 cap while Webster is 1500. Also, Saint Vitus is a 250 cap room, not 200. Makes me think these morons have never actually set foot in these places... 🙄

anonymous 11/18/2021 4:35:46 AM

They/Them here. You will never be one of they.

anonymous 11/18/2021 5:31:03 AM

The REAL they/them here to remind all the nerds in this chat room Trump and all his supporters can go suck shit out of the ass of a rotting corpse.

anonymous 11/18/2021 6:06:31 AM

Will We Came As Romans be playing "To Plant a Seed"? I planted a seed in your girl last night and wanted to be able to sing along to celebrate

anonymous 11/18/2021 6:25:46 AM

anonymous 52 minutes ago The REAL they/them here to remind all the nerds in this chat room Trump and all his supporters can go suck shit out of the ass of a rotting corpse. - You will never be one of they

anonymous 11/18/2021 8:22:23 AM

" No Blake hardman no cares, counterparts should just hang it up or themselves, either works" Blake Hardman wrote this for sure

anonymous 11/18/2021 9:37:13 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if Bowery Presents themselves gives away free tickets to inflate attendance. Literally every promoter does that. It's called papering.

anonymous 11/18/2021 9:40:19 AM

"First off, Monday is the worst day of the week to have a show because it is the beginning of the work & school week for most people. May 23 (Turnstile's NYC date) is college finals & spring graduation time. Second, if Turnstile sells out it's only because they have Citizen & Ceremony who will draw at least 400 paid people on their own supporting them & figure Ekulu will draw at least 40. Therefore take away that 440 & Turnstile dreams 760 on their own nowhere close to a sellout of 1200 cap Brooklyn Steel or even 1000 cap Irving Plaza. 760 isn't even a sell out of 800 cap Granercy Theater. Yeah, Monday's a rough night. Everyone knows that. Not every band wants Mondays off. Thus, a band and package like this can do business in NYC on a Mon. As for the turnstile package, no shit dude. That's how this works. They have a good agent who put together a strong package that can sell. They're called "support bands" for a reason. This is your "booking a tour 101" class for the day.

anonymous 11/18/2021 12:54:36 PM

^^^ I didn't say Turnstile shouldn't book support dumba ss, I was refuting someone saying they will sell out NYC & wherever else when fact is THE ENTIRE SHOW will sell out or not because the support will draw x amount of people to push it to whatever number (hence "support" Mr.Show Booking 101.) My point you missed cuz you're stupid is decade-old Turnstile STILL cannot sell out a show on their own draw , they need Citizen & Ceremony to sell out or almost sell out a venue. Therefore they cannot claim they played a sold out show without being disingenous. Btw if they're soooooo good WHERE'S THEIR GRAMMY NOMINATION FOR GLOW ON HMMM? Their fellow ex-hardcore contemporaries Code Orange got a Grammy nom.

anonymous 11/18/2021 1:01:42 PM

Your logic is that to truly have a "sold out" show you can't have support bands to help the draw? This makes absolutely no sense.

anonymous 11/18/2021 1:04:04 PM

Awful lot of clueless idiots who don't actually know anything about NYC venues in these comments. For one thing, Brooklyn Steel is in fact larger than Webster Hall: Brooklyn Steel is 1800 cap while Webster is 1500. Also, Saint Vitus is a 250 cap room, not 200. Makes me think these morons have never actually set foot in these places... 🙄 >> You're clueless. Brooklyn Steel is 1200-1300, Saint Vitus 200 or closer to that than 250. I think it's 225 or halfway between but that's neither here nor there. 'Point is Citizen & Ceremony could sell out their own shows @ Saint Vitus thus draw 400-500 alone & Turnstile could never sell out or almost sell out Brooklyn Steel or Webster Hall without them or any two support bands & spare me they played NYC twice in August. Yeah cuz they aren't big enough to headline either aforementioned big room ON THEIR OWN IN ONE NIGHT. Let's see Turnstile sell out or almost sell out Brooklyn Steel with just Ekulu & Truthcult. They wouldn't come close.

anonymous 11/18/2021 1:13:09 PM

Your logic is that to truly have a "sold out" show you can't have support bands to help the draw? This makes absolutely no sense.>>> Oh you can have a sold out show, but you can't claim the show sold out ON YOUR BAND ALONE. This is for all these idiot fans & media who will no doubt say Turnstile played sold shows like they didn't get help/would've done it without help from Citizen & Ceremony. Say THOSE THREE sold out wherever, that's all.

anonymous 11/18/2021 1:29:02 PM

Literally every promoter does that. It's called papering. >>> Which is illegal or should be as they're fabricating sales which in turn drives up secondary market ticket prices as well as deceives venues who do not fabricate sellouts or ticket sales period. If I book a show in a 200 capacity room, sell 75 advance tickets to individuals, give out 125 free tickets paid by whoever (band, their label and/or booking agent, a sponsor etc.) & announce the show "sold out" that's a lie which drives up resale prices & band guarantees which in turn drive up ticket prices thus ticket fees. Proof most venues, promoters, bands & their people do this is how many times have you seen a band headline a big room only to play a room half the size in the same city two years later. Either popularity waned or the show in the smaller venue was the true draw (or both but more likely the latter.)

anonymous 11/18/2021 1:35:48 PM

Let's see Turnstile sell out or almost sell out Brooklyn Steel with just Ekulu & Truthcult. They wouldn't come close. Yeah and they wouldn't be playing there without those bands. That's again the f*cking point of stacking a bill with strong support. To play bigger rooms.

anonymous 11/18/2021 1:37:55 PM

Which is illegal or should be as they're fabricating sales which in turn drives up secondary market ticket prices as well as deceives venues who do not fabricate sellouts or ticket sales period. Not illegal nor is the primary purpose any of the things you're saying. It's done to get more people in the room and drinking and generating more sales if a show is underperforming.

anonymous 11/18/2021 1:39:04 PM

"This is for all these idiot fans & media who will no doubt say Turnstile played sold shows like they didn't get help/would've done it without help from Citizen & Ceremony. Say THOSE THREE sold out wherever, that's all." Dude, everyone knows how that works, accept for you. No one claimed JUST turnstile was selling out the show. However, the turnstile TOUR IS. You're either being deliberately obtuse or just truly don't get it.

anonymous 11/18/2021 1:43:07 PM

"You're clueless. Brooklyn Steel is 1200-1300" Hey guy who thinks he knows what he's talking about: Brooklyn Steel is a 1,800-capacity music venue in Brooklyn, New York City, New York, United States. In 2018 Brooklyn Steel was named one of the 10 best live music venues in America by Rolling Stone Magazine.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn_Steel

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:00:58 PM

Dude, everyone knows how that works, accept for you. No one claimed JUST turnstile was selling out the show. However, the turnstile TOUR IS. You're either being deliberately obtuse or just truly don't get it.>>> Obtuse? Look who's talking. Turnstile's machine which includes media which props & hypes them up & fans will say Turnstile sold out this & that as if support wasn't the primary reason. That's my point you don't get, but I'm glad you know the reality - now stop being a disingenous nitwit. Yes, headliner has tour support which takes less to play before headliner's fans so headliner can make more money as well as play to support's fans - not what I'm talking about. Wikipedia can be wrong & is in this case. Say 1800 - well that's not the main capacity dumba ss. It is MULTIPLE ROOMS TOTALLING 1800 or whatever. Capacity = the actual room people can SEE the band.

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:03:45 PM

<<Not illegal nor is the primary purpose any of the things you're saying. It's done to get more people in the room and drinking and generating more sales if a show is underperforming.>> That is fabrication which is OR SHOULD BE illegal. It's weak as sh it too, to buy up tickets to create the illusion of a sellout.

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:09:39 PM

The legal capacity that AEG/Bowery sells to for shows is 1800. I've done shows there. Take the L. I don't care that not all 1800 have good sitelines or they're actually including a lounge that's separated or whatever. They sell out at 1800. And reading you ramble about this shit is like reading a paper from contrarian kid in intro to music biz class. Everyone knows how this shit works. Yes, the story will be "turnstile sells out club." Everyone who needs to know knows it's a stacked bill. Does it really matter to some 19 year old if it was JUST turnstile or if the support is worth x tix? Does that have ANY impact on their lives? Sounds like you just dislike this band (a band I don't care about, at all).

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:10:31 PM

"That is fabrication which is OR SHOULD BE illegal. It's weak as sh it too, to buy up tickets to create the illusion of a sellout." They're not buying them. They're literally their own property. If they give them away, that's on them.

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:22:30 PM

Yeah and they wouldn't be playing there without those bands. That's again the f*cking point of stacking a bill with strong support. To play bigger rooms.>>> Yes & no. Yes you want to play bigger rooms but no you want to play them with support. You're Turnstile. The dream or I should say the goal is you want to headline without support so you can make even more money which allows you to live the life you want to live, financial security for life after the band etc. without relying on support. The reality is you have to book support to get there, make more money & create the illusion that you're bigger than you are with them. If you're a headliner your goal is to draw WITHOUT SUPPORT i.e. you could throw on a pair of locals who are good but can't draw 50 paid people between them which is fine cuz you got this. Your show is $25 you draw 1000 people for 25K gross & 15K (60%) to you, you can toss each band 375 each & still walk away with 14,250 plus merch sales for the night.

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:26:25 PM

Jesus H Christ... if that's the case, why is even the tour this post is about, a pretty stacked bill? Why are Opeth and Mastodon touring together, again? Yeah, you can go the route where you take out support no one cares about, or you create an "event" people feel they NEED to go out to.

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:28:32 PM

^^^ Turnstile is playing the classic game but it's not enough (I'll explain.) They have their fans & want to gain new ones - enter support. One hand washes the other: Citizen & Ceremony play to & ideally win over x amount of them while Turnstile plays to & ideally wins over x amount of Citizen & Ceremony fans. The beauty of this for Turnstile is the other two will take less money for this opportunity thus Turnstile will make more money off their draw.

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:32:49 PM

The beauty of this for Turnstile is the other two will take less money for this opportunity thus Turnstile will make more money off their draw. exactly

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:41:59 PM

But here's the problem/eventuality Turnstile will have to face: How do they get bigger WITHOUT support? Or jumping on a tour where they will gain little or no new fans? Let's get real: How many Chief Keef fans are Turnstile fans now? If Turnstile was smart they'd offer reduced admission to anyone who attended a Chief Keef show they played to see how many CF fans they've won. Turnstile should be nominated for a Grammy - they're not. They should be appearing on at least one of the late night talk shows (Kimmel, Fallon, Myers esp. Kimmel as he's a old Generation Xer who listened to some hardcore punk in the 80s e.g. him booking Off! cuz Circle Jerks) - they're not. Saturday Night Live - they're not. They showed it in a bunch of movie theaters, cool - so? That's preaching to the converted. Where's the videos on steady constant rotation on MTV. VH1, Much Music, etc? Terrestrial radio which only helps? At some point they're gonna have to play a 1500 cap room ALONE NO SUPPORT.

anonymous 11/18/2021 2:58:03 PM

This is like talking about a book with someone who read the Cliffs Notes and not the book.

anonymous 11/18/2021 3:04:57 PM

If I was Turnstile's manager I would tell them this is what they will do from hereonin: 1. No more hardcore shows or fests, or playing with hardcore bands period. 2. Leave Roadrunner & sign with whoever the hell Taylor Swift is signed with & can get them constant play on MTV, VH1, terrestrial radio etc. 3. Be support on arena tours only & headline 3000 capacity or bigger rooms only. 4. Appear on Kimmel, Fallon, Myers & SNL. 5. Think big period. Red Hot Chili Peppers recently announced a world tour - all arenas & stadiums. WHY ISN'T TURNSTILE ON AT LEAST A LEG OF IT? Tell me "olds don't care" BS. RHCP is a scene/movement unto themselves besides their fans are mostly Generation X & on & an countless amount of them know what's up with hardcore punk, metal etc.

anonymous 11/18/2021 3:08:22 PM

This is like talking about a book with someone who read the Cliffs Notes and not the book.>> What "book" have you read, genius? Here's a fact: Turnstile will never take it to the next level if they keep touring with Chief Keef & trying to win over Citizen-Ceremony fans.

anonymous 11/18/2021 3:25:49 PM

legal capacity that AEG/Bowery sells to for shows is 1800. I've done shows there. Take the L. I don't care that not all 1800 have good sitelines or they're actually including a lounge that's separated or whatever. They sell out at 1800.>>> You haven't set up ja ck sh it there cuz someone who puts on shows there wouldn't come on here. So "take the L" train back to your crummy rented room in Greenpoint or Bushwick Brooklyn, bi tch. No one goes to a show where the band is in the other room - you just tipped off you're a lying clown. A Turnstile fan is dropping $30 plus ticket fee to hang out in the lounge & maybe see Turnstile on a video monitor GTFOH LOL. Btw so fu cking what Brooklyn Steel is 1800? This show isn't selling out & if it does it's only cuz the support will push it there. That was my only point you & others are getting your panties in a bunch over & it's hilarious. I struck a nerve over what?

anonymous 11/18/2021 3:26:32 PM

Tell me "olds don't care" BS. RHCP is a scene/movement unto themselves besides their fans are mostly Generation X & on & an countless amount of them know what's up with hardcore punk, metal etc. What now?? And do MTV and VH1 show videos at all during regular hours anymore? Because I'm looking at their TV schedule and doesn't look like it

anonymous 11/18/2021 3:29:58 PM

Oh yeah - what's so impressive about a decade-old band headlining an 1800 capacity room but needing support to do that? I'm more impressed by an old band who hasn't played a show in 15 or more years selling out a 1-2K room.

anonymous 11/18/2021 3:33:40 PM

I said I'd done shows, not set them up. You'd be surprised who lurks message boards. You think agents and promoters don't read comments? LOL YOU said the 1800 was based on whole building and that it's only really 1200 or whatever. Even if that's legally the case, they sell to 1800. And you're making my point about watching on a monitor; no one is actually doing that. You were wrong about cap. That was a hill you decided to die on. Sorry bud, you're just getting dunked on all over.

anonymous 11/18/2021 3:45:50 PM

What now?? And do MTV and VH1 show videos at all during regular hours anymore? Because I'm looking at their TV schedule and doesn't look like it >>9 Gee maybe it's cuz a week has 168 hours in it & long gone are the days MTV can exist on music 24-7 or in primetime much less has been a music channel. MTV.com, moron. There isn't one hardcore/hc adjacent band who wouldn't drop a load & tell everyone on Earth they appeared on MTV in 2021 however (video, show, online, whatever.) Bottom line is you want to be EVERYWHERE - MTV, streaming, a TV show or movie - whatever. Keep playing checkers when I'm playing chess.

anonymous 11/18/2021 3:54:35 PM

Keep playing checkers when I'm playing chess. HAHA Also I'm genuinely interested in you linking me to the videos on MTV.com Not Unplugged, not VMAs, just videos

anonymous 11/18/2021 4:23:06 PM

said I'd done shows, not set them up. You'd be surprised who lurks message boards. You think agents and promoters don't read comments? LOL YOU said the 1800 was based on whole building and that it's only really 1200 or whatever. Even if that's legally the case, they sell to 1800. And you're making my point about watching on a monitor; no one is actually doing that. You were wrong about cap. That was a hill you decided to die on. Sorry bud, you're just getting dunked on all over.>> Done shows means set them up and/or played them, but usually set them up. "Yo let's do a show with (so & so)" = "Let's set up or play a show" not been a bathroom attendant like you. Agents & promoters read message boards? Uhhh, this is a COMMENTS SECTION, dumba ss who is obviously showing his age & era. So if anyone is being "dunked on" it's you. If the room the band plays in holds 1200 & the place holds more esp.1800 they do not sell to more than 1200. Are you this stupid in real life?

anonymous 11/18/2021 4:33:50 PM

Also I'm genuinely interested in you linking me to the videos on MTV.com Not Unplugged, not VMAs, just videos>> Unplugged is on the site & since you want to talk about the MTV VMAs, where is Turnstile's video (which was so earth shattering they held screenings for it) among the nominees? Will it be nominated? Hey at least you acknowledged MTV is still a force in music (obviously not what they once were but a force nonetheless.) You working the Brooklyn Steel bathroom for this Turnstile show @ Brooklyn Steel or something?

anonymous 11/18/2021 5:33:43 PM

we came as toilets

anonymous 11/18/2021 6:11:43 PM

LMAO @ these comments being hijacked by Turnstile talk

anonymous 11/18/2021 6:15:02 PM

"Done shows means set them up and/or played them, but usually set them up. "Yo let's do a show with (so & so)" = "Let's set up or play a show" not been a bathroom attendant like you" Or tour managed... "Agents & promoters read message boards? Uhhh, this is a COMMENTS SECTION, dumba ss who is obviously showing his age & era. So if anyone is being "dunked on" it's you." Yes, real huge difference between the 2... "If the room the band plays in holds 1200 & the place holds more esp.1800 they do not sell to more than 1200." Yeah, you've clearly never actually worked in touring or venues in any actual capacity. "Hey at least you acknowledged MTV is still a force in music (obviously not what they once were but a force nonetheless.) " It's really not, esp for rock. Funny while trying to find the date they pulled videos, I found multiple stories about the lack of impact MTV has now. Also, I said, "not unplugged." Guess you couldn't find me that link, huh?

anonymous 11/18/2021 6:29:23 PM

As a real agent lurking this thread, person who keeps posting nonsense knows nothing about touring/venues/the music industry.

anonymous 11/18/2021 6:51:48 PM

"As a real agent lurking this thread, person who keeps posting nonsense knows nothing about touring/venues/the music industry." Ok but are you vaccinated?

anonymous 11/22/2021 12:43:37 AM

Ok "real agent" riddle me this: Monday is the absolute worst day to have a show. The weekend is over & most people resume work or school on Monday. HTF DOES THAT BENEFIT TURNSTILE? Or is it all about a moral victory? "Well it was a great turnout for a Monday night." Monday = The venue doesn't think you can draw enough on a weekend night (Fri/Sat/Sun) to justify giving them one. HTF do you play Monday if you draw more than who plays Fri/Sat/Sun? It makes no sense.

anonymous 11/22/2021 12:48:06 AM

^^^ You know what's nonsense? Turnstile boasting of sold out shows without mentioning support pushed those shows to sellouts.

anonymous 11/23/2021 2:02:26 PM

^^Clueless twat gonna cluelessy twat up in here.

anonymous 12/2/2021 3:26:49 PM

Monday = The venue doesn't think you can draw enough on a weekend night (Fri/Sat/Sun) to justify giving them one. LOL, it sold out first day and they added a show in Queens the day before in a venue that can hold up to 3000, depending on layout.




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