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Job For A Cowboy interview

By Devin Braden
Sat, January 31, 2009 2:06 PM PT10,707 views

While many have applauded Job for a Cowboy for their truly incredible rise to the Hot Topic mainstream of American metal in just a few years' time, there are others still who constantly deride the band for their supposed inexperience, their lack of connection to death metal's proud history, and their early decisions to embrace popular trends like breakdowns and the much-maligned "pig-squeal" vocals. And though recent evolutions in the band's sound have raised a few eyebrows among traditional death metal fans, they still find themselves fighting an uphill battle to overcome their status in some circles as a run-of-the-mill "MySpace band."

Guitarist Bobby Thompson -- having joined just prior to the writing of their debut full-length -- has no doubt felt the pressure to contribute to the young band's evolution as they work to further distance themselves from their early reputation. On a chilly November evening in Colorado Springs, CO, he was gracious enough to set aside some time during a local opener's set to answer a few questions (with occasional interjections by other band members) about the band's latest material, their life on the road, and their reputation among both fans and detractors.


So, how has this tour been coming along? Do you enjoy playing 'B' markets like Colorado Springs?

It's kinda weird. It's really late in our album cycle to be doing it.

It's been, what, almost two years?

Yeah, almost -- May 15th. Year and a half-ish. It's actually been surprisingly good. We weren't expecting it to be really sick or anything, but it's been really fun.

A lot of smaller turnouts, I'm guessing.

Well, tonight is probably the weakest show so far. It's still gonna be fun, though. We played here before, like, two years ago. With Animosity, actually -- on the 'Steers and Beers' tour. Animosity, [From a] Second Story Window, Misery Index, and Cattle [Decapitation].

Now, the last club tour that came through town had you co-headlining with Behemoth.

Yeah, the headliner was determined by the market. That tour was sick.

And this tour has you headlining over Hate Eternal.

Well, personally, they're one of my favorite metal bands of all time. I was just really psyched on the fact that they'd want to tour with a band like us. We'd met Erik [Rutan, guitarist/vocalist of Hate Eternal] before, and we knew he was a really cool dude, so we're really stoked. It's been awesome. We've learned a lot in the last week from just being on tour with him. He's toured fuckin' everything forever! Being able to tour with a band like that is seriously an honor. They're exactly the kind of band I want to be touring with.

You seem to draw pretty different crowds, though.

You know, we do have a different crowd. We've been doing different kinds of tours lately trying to branch out and appeal to a lot of different kids. We've actually noticed over the last year and a half that the audience is changing quite a bit. The younger kids still do come out, but we get a lot more older kids now, which is awesome. You know, older metal dudes. It's sweet.

I noticed that standing in line tonight.

[Jonny Davy, vocalist for JFAC, walks past van]

Hey, Jonny -- you wanna shout out to Lambgoat?

Jonny: I've actually gotta poop, I'll be back.

Apparently not.

No, apparently not. [laughs] Anyway, we've been choosing tours to appeal to a different fan base. It's not that we're hating on having a young audience. It's the fact that a young audience might not be around in six months. They're fickle. Going after the dudes that are dedicated -- that's where it's at.

How do you feel about headlining over more established bands like Behemoth and Hate Eternal?

I actually hate it. I can't stand it. When we toured with Behemoth, having to play after them was horrible. First of all, they shred live. They're awesome live. Second, they are sick, and they've been around forever. They've been around for so long. A band like us, for whatever reason -- "numbers" or whatever -- we have to get put over a band like that. To me, it doesn't seem right. I hate it. I'm not comfortable in any way having to headline over a band that I respect endlessly. But it is what it is, and that's shitty.

Do you feel that the band's evolution toward a more straightforward Death Metal sound is part of the plan you mentioned to appeal to a wider audience? Do you feel that it's helped with winning over audiences that would have otherwise been unreceptive?

Well, I joined the band right before we started writing Genesis. And we all talked before I joined, and we all had the same kind of vision: we wanted to get away from the whole "-core" situation. To me, that's not really what I like, it's not what I listen to, and it's definitely not what I want to play. We all decided that everybody was over it. It might have been cool at the time [of the Doom EP] because everybody was fuckin' 16 when they wrote that shit. We were ready to do something completely different. We weren't really worried if kids were going to dig it or not. We just knew that's what we wanted to do. It's not like we were trying to turn our back on people or whatever -- we wanted to do it, and we were going to do it no matter what. And the next album's going to be a little different, too.

So, I assume you're not a fan of the term "Deathcore" -- or, at least, not when it's applied to Job for a Cowboy.

I maybe get why people would consider the EP that genre. I understand that. I'm not really into the whole genre-labeling shit, though.

Al [Glassman]: That's a poor response, Bobby. Get it together.

Bobby: [Laughs] Yeah, I just don't really give a shit. People are like, "oh, you're a Deathcore band." I don't fuckin' care. If someone's talking about our band in any way, then it's sweet. I don't give a shit what they're saying.

The second-to-last track on Genesis is a bit different than the rest of the record.

Is that the slow one? I don't remember.

Yeah, I'd say it almost borderline Doom Metal.

We had an idea to do a couple of slower, sludgier songs -- break up the album a little bit, make sure it's not just fuckin' craziness the entire time. I think that gets kinda boring.

Any plans to do any more of that like, say, Cephalic Carnage did?

Oh, I like Cephalic Carnage.

Al: Halls of Amenti!

Bobby: I don't know. We have a lot of shit to get done for the new record, so in the near future, I don't see that happening. Maybe eventually when we have more time to get shit together.

So, you're working on a new record now?

Yeah, we are.

Have you started recording it?

Not really, no. A couple of test tracks. We'll probably hit the studio at the end of February or March. It'll be a 2009 release. Not sure exactly when, but definitely 2009.

Out of curiosity, how much of the band's success do you attribute to MySpace?

That's kind of a weird question. You know, how do you gauge that? I guess if you're going to be kinda fuckin' typical about it, you could look around and say, "I guarantee that kid only knows about this band because of MySpace." I would definitely say that MySpace helped, I'd be stupid to try to argue that, but we've been touring our asses off. I mean, I credit MySpace. It helps every band. It's a new way of getting your music out there and exposing it to tons of people.

Just for the record, who's the oldest member of the band?

Al. How old are you, Al?

Al: 24

Bobby: And I'm the second-oldest. I'm 22.

Youngest member?

Twenty, bass player [Brent Riggs].

So, it makes sense that MySpace would have been important early on when the band was still too young to tour.

Yeah, it's a great source for bands to get their music out there. What happens to a lot of bands, though, is that bands get too popular too fast. Bands get record deals without touring. A lot of bands tend to fall apart and don't know what to do when, all of a sudden, they're popular and they haven't left their state. It's good and bad, definitely.

Tell me about the all-instrumental set you guys played this summer.

Oh, yeah. It was in Finland. Jonny had a throat infection and couldn't really even talk. We had already cancelled, like, three shows and didn't want to cancel anymore. We were supposed to go to Moscow -- couldn't do it. We were supposed to play in Estonia -- we couldn't do it. We were supposed to play another festival and we couldn't do it. So, we decided we were not cancelling anymore shows -- we were just gonna fuckin' do it. It's not gonna be normal, but it gonna be something.

Yeah, that's a pretty different approach than most bands would take. Were you not able to find someone to fill in for him?

No, because we weren't really on tour with anybody. We were just doing festival shit, so it's not like we were on tour with a package and could just ask the singer of another band like, "yo, could you hop on and do this real quick?" It was a last-minute thing, but I think we all decided that we were playing no matter what. We did it, and it actually was really cool. The crowd was fuckin' awesome -- they were singing along to the parts they knew, and they were into it. It was crazy.

So, if he came down with another throat infection, do you think you'd do it again?

Depends on the situation, I guess. I think, with that show, it was the first time we'd ever played there, and the promoter was gonna get a little fuckin' pissed if we didn't do something. We wanted to make it cool with everybody, and they were actually really psyched that we did it anyway. It turned out really cool.

How long has it been since you last read Lambgoat?

I actually went on today and saw that Burnt By the Sun put up a new track. That was, like, an hour ago.

Okay, so you may catch on to this next bit pretty quickly. Can you name the quarterback of the New Orleans Saints?

Nope. I don't give a shit about football.

Okay, next question: can you name the town where Frodo first meets Aragorn in The Fellowship of the Ring?

No, I've never seen any of those movies. Or, well, I saw part of one, and some dude -- it was, like, the wizard guy -- was falling off a bridge or some shit. That's the only thing I remember. And don't ask about Harry Potter. I don't know shit about that, either.

Okay, next question: can you name a soft cheese from France known for forming a crust of edible mold?

Am I supposed to know what that is? Uh, I don't know. [Pauses] Brie? Is it brie? I'm assuming it's brie.

You are correct.

Fuckin' jerk. Figures.

So, while we're on the subject of "bree," what are your thoughts on the emerging deathcore trend in underground music?

To be honest, I don't really care. I think it's kind of silly when a band straight-up just labels itself as that, but who am I to judge? Do what you love. I don't give a shit. Bands are out there touring and shit, and half the kids that talk shit about them are sitting at home with their finger in their ass and are never gonna be able to do that. It's awesome that they're still doing it. It might not be something I'm into, but they're doing it and you've got to give them credit for it. A lot of bands are actually making a really good name for themselves in the genre. Not a lot of people get to say that.

Do you think bands like that have any staying power, or do you think they'll eventually evolve and/or fade away?

I think there are going to be bands that evolve, and there are going to be bands that don't. The bands that don't are gonna have a little more trouble than the bands that do. Music is an ever-changing thing. [A specific genre] might be sick for a year and a half, it might be sick for six months, then it's gonna go away. You never know how long it's going to stay around. Bands that continue to evolve, I think, definitely have a lot more going for them, but fuck it -- if a band doesn't want to evolve, more power to 'em. Keep doin' what you do.

Would you say that Job for a Cowboy has evolved?

Yeah, definitely. We're always trying to evolve. And it's not because we're trying to get what's gonna be the next big thing -- it's what we want to do as a band. It wouldn't benefit the band to release the same album every time.

Do you consider the new material to be another step in the band's evolution? What would you say has influenced your approach to writing it?

I don't know. It's kinda all over the board. I think the new stuff is a little bit more thought-out. More thought has gone into the writing process. We wrote Genesis -- I had just joined the band, our drummer quit -- we wrote it in, like, a month and a half or two months. We don't want to make the same mistakes we made last time. I'm sure if you talk to any dude in the band, [he'll say,] "we fucked up here, here, here, and here. This is why it should be better." We're always looking to evolve and become better as a band. We're trying to redeem ourselves, I guess. [Laughs]

Genesis clocked in at just over a half-hour, which is somewhat refreshing, since many bands feel like they need to use all 80 minutes of a CD. Do you intend for the new album to be any longer?

Well, that wasn't really the intent. The album really only has eight songs on it -- we didn't intend for that to happen. We wanted to have ten tracks, but we ran out of time. And that's the truth. Straight up. But when we release this next record, we're not gonna have a 60-minute record. I'm the same way -- I don't like long records, really. I lose interest. I have a really short attention span -- especially when it comes to Death Metal, man. Seventy minutes of that shit is a lot.

Absolutely. When I look at the running times on some of my favorite Death Metal records, I realize that a good majority of them are under an hour. None So Vile, for instance, is just barely 30 minutes.

Yeah, a fuckin' prolonged death metal album -- I don't know if I'm totally into [that]. And I definitely don't want to put one out.

Makes sense. Do you have any parting thoughts for Lambgoat?

I'm sure the first reply to this is going to be "first post, no care ever." Does that sounds about right?

Yeah, that sounds about right

Or "van flip." Or "career flip." Some shit like that.


34 comments

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falling_down_ 1/31/2009 2:33:03 PM

first. no care.


grammar nazi_ 1/31/2009 2:34:48 PM

latestd material


arty_mcfarty_ 1/31/2009 2:42:48 PM

third! gayshitband


Final_Judgement_ 1/31/2009 3:21:08 PM

f*cking incredible band. Can't wait for new stuff. NP: Entombment of a Machine.


observethemoon_ 1/31/2009 3:22:08 PM

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xgambloatx_ 1/31/2009 3:26:03 PM

Solid interview and some respectable answers.


zombieguru_ 1/31/2009 3:32:43 PM

Not really a fan, but he seems like a decent dude.


BillCosBREE_ 1/31/2009 4:27:34 PM

Job For A Cowboy Update June 11th 2009: Guitarist Bobby Thompson has announced, via the bands myspace, that all songs on the new record have been renamed so as to offer commentary on the fact that he, and the band, are not bothered by constant "Bree-band" insinuations. Breeeion Sanders, BillcosBreee, and Leonardo DicapBREEEo will be streamed on the bands website in the coming weeks. Stay tuned!


Antikrist_ 1/31/2009 5:34:56 PM

f*ck this gay band. Also Final_Judgement is norma_jean


zach_ 1/31/2009 6:30:01 PM

It's another interview to read, I guess. At least the guy is honest, I wouldn't want to play after Behemoth either.


BloodGutter_ 1/31/2009 11:13:12 PM

[Jonny Davy, vocalist for JFAC, walks past van] Hey, Jonny -- you wanna shout out to Lambgoat? Jonny: I've actually gotta poop, I'll be back. LOLOLOLOL


xSeanHannityx_ 2/1/2009 1:53:22 AM

aids flip


Andr00_ 2/1/2009 2:42:44 AM

genreflip!!


anonymous 2/1/2009 9:27:51 AM

f*ckin jerk hasnt seen lotr..its some little gated community and they meet in a pub..sort of. witchking ftw


Nicky Urine_ 2/1/2009 2:08:24 PM

Wish they would have stuck with their "Doom" sound. Beats the shit out of sounding like a million other death metal bands.


magicjohnsonhasaids_ 2/1/2009 8:08:10 PM

rectum flip!!!


DA BOY_ 2/2/2009 1:59:14 AM

favor 4 UH GAYBOY / FLIP


zero_x_potential_ 2/2/2009 4:37:42 PM

lol at the transition into bree.


xbumpx_ 2/2/2009 6:24:13 PM

this band is retarded, dude acts like he doesn't care about anything but its because he knows everybody already thinks his band is gay


anonymous 2/3/2009 6:38:11 AM

Okay, next question: can you name a soft cheese from France known for forming a crust of edible mold? LOL


cantfakethepunk_ 2/4/2009 10:22:10 AM

i love to suck c-ck


faggot_ 2/5/2009 11:50:19 AM

wow, Devin is a f*cking gay. Give the guy a break dude. Regardless of shit band or not, you can't go into an interview with an attitude like that. You interview bands for a website, he plays music, he's already got 1 up on you regardless..


keene_ 2/5/2009 3:34:54 PM

it's an interview, that's for sure.


Fetus_Puncher_ 2/5/2009 9:38:12 PM

No Care Ever, Van Flip, Career Flip.


LOL@FAGGOT_ 2/6/2009 5:05:40 AM

Yes cause playing guitar in a f*cking awful band gives you "1 up" over anyone...SHUT THE f*ck UP


anonymous 2/7/2009 3:44:44 PM

lol @ brie question & answer


xomertax_ 2/23/2009 2:04:05 AM

drew brees best qb in the league


metal_bob_ 2/25/2009 10:07:31 PM

ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


cantfakethepunk_ 3/30/2009 4:04:47 PM

I CANT GET ENOUGH c-ck ALL I DO IS THINK ABOUT GIANT DICKS IN MY MOUTH c-mMING AND PISSING ALL OVER MY FACE WHILE I GET REACH AROUNDS FROM GUYS. f*ck BY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck BY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck BY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck BY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck BY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck BY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck BY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck BY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck BY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck MY FACE f*ck


u r all fags_ 3/31/2009 1:10:05 PM

Doom {Ep} was nasty the new record genesis was decent, but most songs sounded the exact same, excited to hear a new album


xburnfacex_ 4/16/2009 6:23:08 PM

breebreeorbreeeeeeeeeeetombmentogayaybanndddbreeee vanflip.


mikeclosure_ 12/14/2009 4:54:54 PM

at least he knew, no care, van and career flip.


AaronForBattle_ 5/8/2010 10:25:58 AM

love these guys